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Oregon Coast Trail @killyourfm@layer8.spaceAnd here's what's causing my anxiety about joining a #PeerTube instance for my music stuff. I sift through and find an instance that fits my needs, head to the "About" page and see this:
HOW LONG WE PLAN TO MAINTAIN THIS INSTANCE
"Currently plan to run this instance for the next year or so at least, depending on usage and financials."
I would assist with those financials, but it still doesn't fill me with any confidence that it's going to stick around...
@killyourfm What we really need to happen for #peertube is affordable hosted options, so they can be easier to set up and maintained by a community, much like #mastodon instances are becoming right now.
Or, if you prefer, treat a peertube instance like a personal space/website where users host their own content and simply federate with trusted instances to create hubs.
My 2 cents
Agreed :)
@killyourfm @zleap This is on the right track, but still involves a few clicks;)
https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/cloudron
and cloudron.io then gives you the ability to one-click install #peertube
https://www.cloudron.io/pricing.html
https://www.cloudron.io/store/org.joinpeertube.cloudronapp.html
I can't vouch for the process, but it seems possible
If you ever do it, I would recommend NOT federating, which only means that you don't get a stream of undesirable content on your instance, but people can subscribe to you, and you can follow other creators:)
@killyourfm @zleap best of luck, I'd love to hear how/if it works...I'm sure the rest of the #fediverse would as well:)
@killyourfm @zleap WHAT!!!! That was amazingly fast, ha ha!
Perhaps what is needed is a pre made Raspberry Pi and or other image with dependencies set up, boot up, answer a few questions and ready to go.
This is beyond my technical ability but it would mean documentation could be written to support that set up too.
@zleap @killyourfm For anyone that is interested #yunohost is essentially that.
A headless Debian ISO that can be installed on an old PC, Raspberry Pi, or VPS which even dummies like me could figure out;) They even provide you with a free subdomain!
Once installed, if you're hosting at home, you just need to open a few ports, and you're good to go:)
It acts as a base platform for a whole host of one click apps, but the library is truly staggering in its size.
@lps @killyourfm @zleap and just because @lps didn't clearly mention it, they have peertube in their list of applications.
yunohost.org/de/app_peertube
And here for RaspberryPi:
yunohost.org/en/install/hardwa…
Also make sure to install Peertube on its own subdomain or domain, one that you own.
@killyourfm Yeah, I definitely understand this worry. Maybe it's a good opportunity to lean harder into the 'peer' part of the tech. If peertube instances were more like access points for a torrent-style network it would lower hosting fees and add resilience. Video is one of those areas that is just punitively difficult to host.
@hearsepileup
Not only hosting, but also streaming.
Coding, bitrates, sync with audio, resolutions, …
@killyourfm My thinking is that you should firstly host your own content on your own website, and then disseminate it out from there. If your external "sharing and discoverability network" goes down, accessibility to your content is always guaranteed. Syndicate out the discoverability, in-house the source of truth. Does that make any sense?
@AdamBishop 
It DOES make sense...
But how does one host GBs of video data on a cheap self-hosted wordpress site without a) going broke doing it and b) providing viewers anything resembling decent download speed?
@killyourfm @AdamBishop It's kind of one or the other, especially if you have a global audience and want to look into CDNs, etc. There is a reason people offload the "video" portion to something like youtube via embedded players. I used to have to do this for a snowboard brand pre-youtube (adoption) days, and even then, the $ was not small. But with that said, I have not evaluated costs in recent history. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@bashfulrobot @AdamBishop Thanks guys. I'm just gonna go create a Cloudron install on Linode, and then install their PeerTube app and see what happens. LIVING DANGEROUSLY!
@killyourfm I'm certainly no expert in this, I'm just thinking aloud. I realise that it's a question of scalability - the more videos you have and the more viewers you have, the faster downloads you need, the more it costs, and the more it is potentially monetisable. But it's the same problem for any host. You can only scale to what you can afford. Perhaps slightly lower quality vids, fewer vids, only the last four vids hosted at a time, a rotation of vids (this week's vid from the archive)?
@killyourfm A cheaper alternative is a static rather than dynamic site, e.g. Hugo, Jekyll vs WordPress. Also text is cheap, you are good at words, so describe a hundred videos plus thumbnails, and publish 5 in rotation, then get people to request or vote on publishing others. It's a fudge, but if you've got few options, you think out of the box.
@AdamBishop
That's POSSE, essentially?
As described in the IndieWeb wiki.
@RyunoKi @killyourfm Ah yes, that's exactly it! Thank you.
If it could be a torrent system that would be amazing, but complicated. I think it would require at least 3 different people currently online to automatically download the file, and then watch to see if one of those people goes down and have another person automatically download. People uploading content or volunteers would basically also have to share storage space in the process to create stable redundancy. The instance operator would then only have to maintain the same amount of storage as everyone in the instance.
@killyourfm
Convince your employer to set up an instance 
@RyunoKi It's for personal use.
@RyunoKi It's all good! I'm exploring installing Cloudron within a Linode, then using that to one-click install PeerTube to an existing domain.
Fingers crossed...
@killyourfm
Let me know how it goes!
I'm aware of Yunohost and Sandstorm in terms of Fediverse.
Personally I look into hosting within Europe (mainly because data protection levels. And the hope of not having secret agencies doing stuff on those machines).
Signed up with @Stuxhost (Netherlands) but am confused by their tiers.
So haven't progressed much here.
Guess, I'll end up with a Hetzner VPS some day.
@killyourfm
Ideally I would like to contribute to the diversity of hosting providers. Especially if it means giving smaller companies a chance.
But I want managed services (as in: don't want to have to care for the infrastructure. But I'm okay with keeping the software up to date).
There was a poll on the Fediverse last year (let me know if I shall dig up the link) that showed quite some hegemony.