layer8.space is one of the many independent Mastodon servers you can use to participate in the fediverse.
Welcome to the 8th Layer of Madness Most topics are related to Linux, Anime, Music, Software and maaaany more PS: BSD is also welcome 😜

Administered by:

Server stats:

308
active users

#PineNote

0 posts0 participants0 posts today
Replied in thread

PineNote Week Two mini-update. I'm just using the device now. It doesn't feel like a shiny new device anymore (post honeymoon) but I'm still enamored (to stretch the metaphor). I have been using it as a reading and writing device for the most part, single function at a time, and I'm quite happy with it.

I'm not really doing any application switching and using it as a full-Linux device (which it is)... BUT, I'm going away on a 5 day trip and considering just taking the PineNote (with a wireless keyboard) instead of a laptop. Maybe I should and report on that experience!? Bottom-line, that thought doesn't make me nervous (I'll get it on my Tailscale network and leave it without a lock-screen maybe? Taking suggestions!)

If you haven't seen the PineNote overview and rough edges videos, they still hold true after two weeks of usage. I don't generally worry about charging it day to day, aside from that still no other thoughts on battery yet.

Replied in thread

I made another PineNote video to address the "rough edges" I mentioned in my previous video: https://makertube.net/w/w3MicEqLiVrpE1FcAvKKae
TL;DW: minor inconveniences, overcome by config and awareness.

Using PineNote as a "laptop" with a Bluetooth keyboard is probably the next thing I cover. Let me know what kinds of questions you might have around that use case.

files.hrdl.eu/pn_2025-03-20_sw
Reposting this video here from community member Hrdl.

This video demos the improved display controller driver for the #pine64 #PineNote, which means goodbye to artifacting and welcome to automatic redrawing on a per pixel basis. As seen in the video, the display runs at a higher (and stable) 84Hz refresh rate than the stock 80Hz thanks to some tuning.

You can find the work Hrdl has been doing here: git.sr.ht/~hrdl/linux

Replied in thread

I've been trying out running the PineNote at 100% scaling but with 2.25x font size with Noto Sans Bold. I think this might generally be a better experience but some icons in apps (Xournal++) and window control are kinda small. Not sure if I'll stick with it. But good thing is that the settings persist after a restart.

Replied in thread

@mikro2nd @shom
@PINE64
thank you so much for this video (and posting on peertube)!
makes me really thinking of getting a #PineNote instead of a laptop...

could you show us how syntax highlighting looks like for coding on this greyscale screen, for exmple opening some code with micro editor?

of course i'd love to see #postmarketos with #sxmo running on it, but maybe this will become a winter task for me 😅

there or other nice touchscreen keyboards to use, see here:
wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Inp

wiki.postmarketos.orgInput methods - postmarketOS Wiki
Replied in thread

It came down to the wire but I did manage to finish a Week One PineNote video: https://makertube.net/w/cSDcWZVjFksZsxpPx5yo8j

@PINE64 has created an excellent device and the community around it is awesome, kind, and super helpful. There are rough edges for sure but it is totally usable out of the box and I'll go into application specific configuration in future posts/videos as long as people find this useful. Let me know what you'd like to see!

Replied in thread

I reflashed the PineNote back to stock with the latest image from January. Even though I had updated via apt update to the latest kernel and software patches, the device feels more delightfully responsive after the re-flash. I would recommend it if/when you get one, AFTER you back it up.

I had to go look look in multiple places for backup and flashing instructions and some of the instructions are for version 1 so they didn't line up exactly. I plan to upstream this into the documentation if they'll have it, but it's published in a 'gist' on Codeberg now, so feel free to check it out. I would love any feedback you have.

https://codeberg.org/shom/gists/src/branch/main/pinenote-backup-flashing.md

Summary card of repository shom/gists
Codeberg.orggists/pinenote-backup-flashing.md at maingists - A collection of quick share "gists" that require markdown rendering or code highlighting to be more consumable as opposed to 0x0.st style sharing
Continued thread

Made an outline for the PineNote video. I'm going to put together a "good enough" video so it actually gets done and I can make more videos to cover different aspects later.

I'm surprised by the amount of interest but I'm so excited to see that. I want to do my part of the Community Edition contribution by sharing all the info I can. Software development isn't the only way to contribute to FOSS!

Continued thread

PineNote Fedi Q&A

Thanks for the interest. There were some overlapping questions, I'm reviewing by category. I don't have answers for every question but I'll do my best and some of it will have to come later out of necessity. I'll be adding a link to a full blog post here soon™: (PineNote - Day One).

Linux Experience

This is a first-class Linux device, full on Debian Trixie with a full Gnome desktop with Pine specific packages that are pinned so they're not overridden by generic packages. The on-screen keyboard has been the only source of frustration. The display runs at 200% and the keyboard isn't optimized for that.

Display Rendering Modes

There's a handy widget to change the current display rendering modes based on what you're doing.

  • Grayscale: 16 levels of gray for best quality, slowest refresh, good for graphics.
  • DU4: 4 levels of grey, great for reading (text is very crisp).
  • B&W + Dither: best for fast refresh needs, writing, terminal, etc. still easy to read but display will feel lower res.
    B&W and B&W invert: these exist but I haven't found them to be that useful for me yet.

Backlight

Wonderfully configurable from very dim to burn your retina. The white and the warm backlights can be controlled individually from the quick access, so you can create your own perfect color temperature. Genuinely delighted by this!

Applications

  • Terminal: Gnome Terminal, everything works great, touch typing hampered by on-screen keyboard but entirely good experience as a terminal with B&W + Dither mode.
  • Browser: Firefox, full install, works with plugins (only tried uBlock Origin).
  • Reader: KO Reader (more utilitarian) and Foliate (more UX polish) but both work great with epub and mobi, didn't try pdf much but it works. I will test annotation, marking, etc. later. It's a good eBook experience, I'm happy to say but as long you realize that it's not that small but definitely not heavy for its size and build quality.
  • Note-taking: Xournal++, works fine out of the box but can be improved with some community config. Haven't used the writing much, more on that in the future. Without config, totally usable but not a dream.
  • App Sources: Anything available in Debian Trixie and Flatpaks cab be enabled. I plan to test and use Flatpaks, will report back.
  • Sync: Syncthing built-in but I read people are also using NextCloud with it. Will test both in the future, might need a test NextCloud instance (if you want answers sooner).

Battery

Definitely not enough data to say. I've been poking and prodding the device most of the day and it has used about 30% of charge so that is very encouraging. Closing the folio case and opening it up again is almost instant response, which I love (was a big fear).
Speculation: The device must be doing some good battery management it seems since first launch of app after inactivity takes a bit to startup but is responsive after launch.

Peripherals

I have not connected Bluetooth devices yet, I plan to test it with Bluetooth mouse, keyboard, and headphones and report back in the utnext couple days.
Disclaimer based on very quick research: There's no USB-C dock functionality, the chip supports USB 3 PCIe,but the actual circuit out to USB-C connector is USB 2.0. There is no physical way for display mirroring (as in act as a external display) or multi-monitor support (as in extend/duplicate screen). But there are Gnome tools to achieve this, I'll play with them at some point.

Resources

Thanks for asking

@MrMozz, @chris, @tdback

@PINE64 I haven't tagged you on every single reply/post but I did want to make you aware in case I misrepresented anything, I'd be happy to correct any factual errors.

shom.dev · PineNote - Day OneI’ve been eye’ing the PineNote for years and recently decided to check up on it. The community has been hard at work it starting to look ready for prime now. I would LOVE an ebook reader and note taker but do not want to be tied into proprietary walled gardens (tempted most by the Remarkable 2 / Paper Pro). I didn’t find much review type information on the PineNote since it’s original developer edition release several years ago. So I decided to be the change I wanted to see and bought one. It’s Open-Hardware, Free Open Source Software (FOSS), and the main distro is purely community built, the purchase justifications just write themselves!
Continued thread

I have been really hoping the warm front light was decent. It is fantastic! That's about halfway up the brightness scale. The regular (white/blue) and warm front lights are separate sliders both in the quick access menu (white is totally off).

Garmin watch is still showing a bit more blue than white. I adjusted the color balance to correct for the camera and get it to a close as what I see in a pitch black room.

More updates later, send any questions you have. Quick (pine) note 🥁, the plastic back feels good but it's a fingerprint magnet but the folio cover is very nice.

Replied in thread

@MrMozz will do. So far I'm excited for it. And also excited to see where it can go.
Are there specific aspects you're interested in? I can keep that in mind when I take notes and make a video. Also I'll keep posting in this thread and use the #PineNote hashtag so feel free to follow that. About to post the warm front light photo.

The PineNote is here! I'm planning on making a hands on video to share my experience. Let me know if you have any questions you want me to try and answer. I don't plan to do technical tests but open to collaborating on it.

First impression, feels like a quality and sturdy device. Feels good in the hand, the texture is a kinda soft grippy plastic. Pen felt good, the writing friction seems ok, I don't want to make any software qualifications until I update the device but still happy with the out-of-box experience. The wake from sleep time is essentially instant.

@PINE64 great work on the PineNote, I'm very impressed with the hardware!

Edit 2: there's renewed interest in this post, feel free to check out the first impressions video (~6 mins, which has a good bit of usage footage), in case that post isn't visible to you.

Edit: Link to blog post with thoughts after day one. Since I'm on a single user instance most people may not see the thread with info that hasn't been boosted, the post has all of it.

I really want to get a PineNote, but my wife has raised valid concerns that 610€ may be a bit much for us at the moment.

I hate to admit it, but she's right 😭
Let's hope they have plenty of stock this time.