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Finally! Mozilla Thunderbird challenges Gmail with its own email service. And that's just the beginning...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2025/04/01/finally-mozilla-thunderbird-takes-on-gmail-with-new-email-service/
@killyourfm Mozilla's AI is still hungry, it needs new user data to ingest after Librewolf started eating their lunches.
Update: Concerns were addressed. Nothing to see here.
Oregon Coast Trail @killyourfm@layer8.space@gooba42 I'll pass this one to @ryanleesipes.
@killyourfm @gooba42 Thunderbird is separate from other Mozilla efforts. We are actually in our own company and we have a Community Council that governs our direction, elected from our contributors.
No Thunderbird user's personal data will be used for AI training or even collected for that matter.
@ryanleesipes @killyourfm Thank you for the clarification! It's a ridiculously complicated time to be a tech user.
@gooba42 @killyourfm I agree. Thunderbird's goal is to create a no hidden agenda, no compromises offering. You pay us for services, we give you them. You are not the product, the services are the product. We don't want your data - that is your data and you decide what to do with it.
Seems simple to me, but folks are, rightly, very cynical about all this. I just hope that Thunderbird can, over time, earn trust for what we are trying to do.
David Sommerseth @ryanleesipes @killyourfm @gooba42
That's good to know, but I still wouldn't use any cloud service unless it stores data with proper end-to-end encryption.
I know e-mail is kinda special here and in-flight data can't necessarily be fully encrypted when communicating with external parties. However, the technical aspect are possible, as @mailbox_org has demonstrated. And @protonprivacy has made it quite user friendly and transparent for non-tech users. (And still need to check out @mailfence too).
@dazo @killyourfm @gooba42 @mailbox_org @protonprivacy @mailfence Right now it is possible to provide a key to encrypt all your data at rest on our test infra. We are looking at how we would like to do key management for our users to make this easy to adopt across our entire user base.
The team and I share your concerns and we have been discussing how to do this in the best way. Please, come join us on the tb-planning mailing list to talk about it.
@ryanleesipes @killyourfm @gooba42
That is indeed good news! Thanks a lot. I'll look at signing up.