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@flavigula @luka @killyourfm @flavigula @RussSharek

OK - Come at me!

TBH, there are various reasons:

- I'm not very Tech Savvy at all

- Trying to use / configure JACK almost caused PTSD.

- There are very few decent Synth-type VSTs available

- Even though Linux uses less resources (generally) My Lenovo Ideapad 110 doesn't seem powerful enough to hanlde latency and similar.

@voidspace @flavigula@altaica.cloud @luka @flavigula@sonomu.club @RussSharek I personally will NOT come at you. Before I switched to Linux, I used Logic Pro X for my music creation/recording. I still can't find a headache-free replacement that comes close, and NOTHING is as good as Logic's Drummer.

I ditched Windows and do everything I can with Linux and open source, but I can't sacrifice my creativity for troubleshooting. (I hear you on the JACK issue)

I'm still trying, and Bitwig looks promising. It's on mac too...

@killyourfm @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek

Thanks for the empathic response.

I use a MBP. I used to rely on Ableton for most of my music production.

I'm not a fan of proprietary software. I don't like the lock-in, and the fact that with each iteration of, in this case, OSX, something doesn't quite work any more.

I can't afford BitWig.

I have a serious interest in FOSS, but to anyone who is used to a "plug and play, out of the box" solution (which many are) it's quite daunting.

@voidspace @flavigula@altaica.cloud @luka @flavigula@sonomu.club @RussSharek I hear you. I always feel dirty firing up my mac just to make music, but it's the only thing that's reliable and flexible enough for me to use and feel confident that my music and creativity is the best it can be.

@voidspace @flavigula@altaica.cloud @luka @flavigula@sonomu.club @RussSharek

Hey, keep an eye on this space though. I'm trying to get some open source music collaboration happening on GitHub. Perhaps you'd feel comfortable just doing something like vocals on something like Ardour?

@killyourfm @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek

Will do. I also struggle with Ardour and gave up on it.

I've had long-term good results using Audacity on all platforms though. (For voice.)

@voidspace

I also hear you. I hear and relate, in fact! I've been purely a #Linux dude for a few centuries now, but I'll never fib and say that I don't have problems. I, too, fight with #JACK, though far less than I used to. I'm proficient enough with #Ardour these days that I find it's workflow fluid, however.

I need to explore #LMMS further. I used it for a few projects 10 years ago. I trust it's matured since.

@RussSharek @flavigula @luka @killyourfm

@killyourfm @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek

going to preface this with that I am primarily a visual artist and music is a small part of what I do (usually adding music or designing sound for my own work when it calls for it)

I found, having learned composing in Logic Pro that #LMMS (with a side of Carla if I am not trying to record and just play live) is the closest one with workflows. [cont]

@killyourfm @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek

#Ardour is a different workflow but is also pretty strong software. As for #Jack, well... that it got preinstalled was one of the reasons how I chose #ubuntustudio (and well the ensuing rabbit hole of getting involved but that's offtopic :) ) which now does come with tools to help set Jack

I am going to assume you have tried these options at least but I am curious to hear what works, what doesn't work. etc.

@killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek For the (slightly) more tech-savvy/masochistically inclined there is always #SuperCollider. The last couple of years I’ve weaned myself off of most GUI-based music making stuff with the honorable exception of #Audacity for my wave editing needs. The learning curve has been steep, but the pay-off enormous.

@kf

Just checked out your website. You and your partner are doing really cool stuff!

@killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula

@killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek The main thing about coding music vs plotting it in on a time-line and working with plug-ins is 1) it forces me to listen to the music instead of staring at wave-forms and meter readings, 2) it opens up a whole world of generative music that is simply not possible to create in a daw...

@killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula @RussSharek ... 3) it removes all visual distractions from the music making process, forcing me to focus on the musical idea instead of the shiniest new GUI toy and 4) it’s absolutely necessary for our project of integrating movement and sound on stage by way of movement sensors. No way to do this in a daw.

@kf

Sounds very similar to the argument for plain text writing environments. Bare metal access to the content and a focus on the greater goal.

Makes a lot of sense to me.

@killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka @flavigula

@kf

I know what you are trying to say, but 1 and 3 are really very context-dependent and subjective - trying to figure out how to do something through programming it from a the low level can be extremely distracting from the music making process for people who are not used or trained in programming. in that regard it is all about what you are fast in, it can be a Schism Tracker or Garage Band for that matter.
(Burial used SoundForge)

@killyourfm @eylul @voidspace
@flavigula @RussSharek

@luka @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @RussSharek True that! And of course, the time I spent learning to program was time I didn’t spend making music. If I were to make a soundtrack for a movie, I’d obviously be very happy to use a GUI for all it’s worth...

@luka @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @RussSharek ...My main wow-moments when programming is the sense of discovery: I set up parameters in a certain way, run the algorithms, and suddenly there’s a whole world of sound spewing out that I’d never be able to produce with my old tools.

@kf @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @RussSharek

The other day I saw this great saying:

"Chop your own wood and it will warm you twice."

I find it so applicable to this need by some of us to write our own routines, DSP plug-ins or UGens or any kind of code even if it already exists in many forms by others - it warms you multiple times.

botsin.space/@dailyquote/10223

@flavigula @luka @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @RussSharek Me too. There's just something about having made it from scratch that is very satisfying on a pure DIY level, but also gives me a much better understanding of what is actually happening, making it possible to tweak things in a way black-box plugins prohibit.

@kf

not to mention the mistakes in the code can sometimes bring some unexpected but welcome results.

@flavigula @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @RussSharek

@luka @flavigula @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @RussSharek Hehe, most of my coding mistakes tend to produce less than pleasant results ;-) (amp: 10 tends to be less happy than amp: 1.0), but there are occasional sonic gems hidden in shitty code.

@kf

I used #SuperCollider for a while through #TidalCycles, which is a #haskell like interface for real time music creation. I never used it in a live environment, though, but just created code that made percussion-like parts to some of my compositions. Algorithmic generation has always interested me. @th4 uses it live.

I mostly compose pieces wholly and then perform them part by part on guitar, modular synth, etc into #ardour.

@RussSharek @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka

@flavigula @th4 @RussSharek @killyourfm @eylul @voidspace @flavigula @luka Cool! I started playing around with tidal a couple of months ago, and for music on a rhythmical grid it’s fantastic. Considering live-coding with it for our next piece, if the context allows...

@flavigula @luka @flavigula @voidspace @eylul @killyourfm @RussSharek @kf yes, I use it both for composing and in the context of live shows, generally to play the same tracks. I also use it for live improvisation, but less more so, as it is a really challenging exercise.

@killyourfm I occasionally do. Don't have a website for that although maybe this counts as a website?
github.com/rghvdberg/OSC-118
All info is in the readme.

<BRAGGING>this track won 1st place on the One Synth Challenge</BRAGGING >

ftr (as described in the readme) one piece of proprietary software was used, OTT...
I since then learned how to get the same effect with opensource tools.

soundcloud.com/rghvdberg/rghvd

@rgh I feel like I'm in a festival inside of Final Fantasy VII when I listen to this. It's a compliment :D

This is super fun. Downloaded!

@rgh Also, if the Mario World theme song was a polka, this would be the perfect candidate! :D

@killyourfm I use Linux and a mix of FOSS plugins and propriatary (bitwig, Sunvox, some plugins) software.

@killyourfm Will try to when i get home, not sure if some propriatary plugins count =w=

@killyourfm soundcloud.com/officialeclipsi
Is one of the best ones i've made exclusively on Linux.

I've been having problems getting my VSTs to run through Carla, so the synths have been simple as of late =w=

@killyourfm A lot of the older tracks on my soundcloud are from back when I still had Windows 7 installed.

@killyourfm Tho i hope once i buy Bitwig 3 next month I'll be able to do more interresting sound design.

@Clipsey I'm hoping BitWig may bring out my more experimental side too.

@killyourfm soundcloud.com/officialeclipsi Here's one of the things i made back when i used Windows 7 and had access to all my VSTs =w=

So yeah, still a lot to learn about Linux Audio for me

@killyourfm Here we go!
open.audio/library/artists/771

"Materia" is made entirely with LMMS on Linux. MIDILand simply uses an Android phone and an unfortunately proprietary sequencer. FX United is completely proprietary :blobcatcoffee:

Even more here, including songs made with MilkyTracker:
soundcloud.com/parnikkapore

@Parnikkapore can you email this over to me? I've got filters set up, and this way it won't get lost in the social media soup :)

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