Then and now
@saga I think a lot of people still play with the classic Java edition because its so readily modifiable.
I don't know if the UWP version can connect to those servers.
>tfw no N950
@digdug I guess the main thing to keep in mind is a "worse is better" approach. If you want to develop an all singing and dancing multimedia "experience" you're going to have a bad time. If you just want to build a more conservative page that delivers information in the easiest way it can then you're going to have much better results.
I'd suggest starting with the absolute basics too, you can add additional features and visual enhancements later and test things one at a time.
@digdug Oh another thing, there's actually the ergonomics of using an old browser to consider, with limited SSL cipher support and most of the root certificates being long expired now I've had to make a few adjustments for IE users. Since this application is a custom front end for a forum its likely that there will be content from many other sites embedded in posts, images, youtube links mostly.
To handle images, I've added a feature that compresses and proxies them to the client via my server.
@digdug I eventually would like to put a post together on rendering issues to look out for, I doubt anybody would find it useful for a modern production system, but its getting harder to find resources on working with old browsers.
@digdug The first thing I did is went for a basic, vertically stacking layout that I knew would be easy to implement and stacking boxes was something that IE's layout engine could actually handle (believe it or not there are still rendering errors in some cases when just doing this)
I've got a staging environment setup and I can deploy new code in about half a second with a small shell script that just rsyncs files onto my server. So I can make small changes and evaluate them on IE quickly.
@digdug Hi there, as you can probably see from my website and posts here I've got period correct hardware laying around. I've been using a Toshiba Libretto 50CT and 110CT to do my testing on, they're tiny Pentium 1 UMPC's and handy when I'm working on my laptop.
I essentially started designing from a pragmatic viewpoint, I know these browsers have strange errata and I should try and make my job easier by side stepping as many as possible from the get go.
@falkreon I'd need to buy a new Navi.
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